tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12487611.post3655874349302451949..comments2023-07-01T05:31:58.501-06:00Comments on Signs of insanity: NOMAJohnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10876775111703252840noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12487611.post-64972012961749786952007-05-24T10:38:00.000-06:002007-05-24T10:38:00.000-06:00Weird. Mine is tprznz - toilet paper reazonz. As f...Weird. Mine is tprznz - toilet paper reazonz. <BR/><BR/>As for NOMA, I wrote a huge post about some flaws I've recently come upon in Christian philosophies and posted it at rationalresponders.com (Entitled something like A Long, Inspired Post) in the Freethinking Anonymous forums. One is a point that Richard Dawkins finds in The God Delusion - "What Christian person do you know who, if science were to find out that Jesus' DNA really does show that he had no biological father, would not jump up and down and say, 'Sorry, that's not even the realm of science. Can't use it here. It doesn't even matter that they did it, all I needed was faith.'" That's not an exact quote, but you get the point.<BR/><BR/>Another thing is something interesting that I came up with the other day when talking to my boss: Have you ever actually asked a Christian the questions that religion supposedly answers? You'll get a craptacular answer most of the time, at best. At worst, you can really see that they're lying to themselves pretty badly. I asked my boss, "Well then, if religion answers why, then why are we were?" His answer, after he floundered a bit, was that, "The Bible says we were put here to worship God." I don't know about you, but that, to me, points to God's vanity and to God's extreme insecurity. God is a sinner.Kyle Szklenskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03837443487933011691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12487611.post-46439610452554283392007-05-21T17:56:00.000-06:002007-05-21T17:56:00.000-06:00The blog Positive Libery has a long sequence of po...The blog <A HREF="http://www.positiveliberty.com/index.php" REL="nofollow">Positive Libery</A> has a long sequence of posts addressing that very issue. Long story short, very very few of the Founders were orthodox Christians. At "best", Unitarian. Often, Deist.<BR/><BR/>One of the more recent entries was about <A HREF="http://positiveliberty.com/2007/05/james-madison-still-wasnt-christian.html" REL="nofollow">James Madison</A> and his beliefs. Those posts are a big part of the reason that Positive Liberty made my blogroll. Good references to use against anyone claiming the "Christian Nation" crap.<BR/><BR/>Uh... yvxstc is the verification... I've ecstasy?Qalmleahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17131154882107531113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12487611.post-27385316647148264032007-05-21T16:54:00.000-06:002007-05-21T16:54:00.000-06:00Yeah, but they'll accept evolution before they acc...Yeah, but they'll accept evolution before they accept that this isn't a Xian nation.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10876775111703252840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12487611.post-71849877389600225932007-05-20T20:01:00.000-06:002007-05-20T20:01:00.000-06:00Separation of science and religion? I'd settle for...Separation of science and religion? I'd settle for seporation of Church and State.Jachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01622919505576895393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12487611.post-23575281133852809882007-05-20T11:39:00.000-06:002007-05-20T11:39:00.000-06:00Exactly.Exactly.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10876775111703252840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12487611.post-32838674120215075982007-05-20T08:53:00.000-06:002007-05-20T08:53:00.000-06:00When applied to a strictly mystical religion, NOMA...When applied to a strictly mystical religion, NOMA works pretty well. There's still a slight overlap in the realm of "What actually causes experiences of (X)?"<BR/><BR/><BR/>When applied to any sort of fundamentalist religion, NOMA cannot work. The fundamentalists won't accept keeping their deity out of other people's business.Qalmleahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17131154882107531113noreply@blogger.com